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Board of Directors
- Roger Scholl, State Chair / Founding Board Member
- Hermi Hiatt, Southern Nevada Vice Chair
- Larry Dwyer, Board Member
- John Hiatt, Issues Chair
- Michelle Napoli, Treasurer
- Karen Boeger, Founding Board Member
- Louis Bubala, Secretary
- Tim Buchanan, Board Member
- Roberta Moore, Board Member
- Tom Myers, Board Member
- Eric Roberts, Board Member
- Dan Johnson, Board Member
- In Memory: Marge Sill, Founding Board Member (1924-2016)
- Shaaron Netherton, Executive Director
- Darcy Shepard, Associate Director
- Pat Bruce, Northern Nevada Stewardship Program Director
- Chris Cutshaw, Northern Nevada Stewardship Manager
- Jake Kastner, GIS Specialist
- Tara Nasvik, Senior Trails Coordinator
- Kurt Kuznicki, Photography Specialist
- Grace Palermo, Southern Nevada Director
- Kirk Peterson, Research Coordinator
- Nora Richter, Northern Nevada Grants and Operations Manager
- Peter Sbraccia, Senior Stewardship Coordinator
- Megan Tait, Northern Nevada Stewardship Coordinator
- Clarice Wheeler, Southern Nevada Programs Coordinator
- Olivia Wolff, Northern Nevada Programs Coordinator
- Coming Spring 2023!
Board of Directors
Harry Reid pays high praise to four Friends of Nevada Wilderness board members: Marge Sill, John Hiatt, Hermi Hiatt and Roger Scholl (click the link to read the PDF document).
Thirty-five years ago I wished Nevada, with millions of acres of largely unrecognized wilderness, could have one full-time person working to protect this legacy. Today I am filled with gratitude for the marvelous staff of Friends of Nevada Wilderness and those who support their work. It is deeply satisfying knowing dozens of magnificent protected areas are home to countless fellow creatures, hold answers to questions we have yet to ask, and offer a taste of my early experiences of discovery to my family, grandchildren and thousands of others.
As an avid outdoorsman Roger has explored most of Nevada's wild places - something he continues to do.
Dr. Scholl has a Ph.D. in chemistry from the University of California at Davis and is presently the semi-retired CEO of Alpha Analytical, an environmental testing firm, in Reno. He also served as Deputy Executive Director of the Wilderness Society in Washington D.C. for several years and was a founder of Friends of Nevada Wilderness. He has been a leader on Nevada wilderness issues since 1969 and was instrumental in the passage of the Nevada Wilderness Bill in 1989.
Coming from Switzerland, a country where almost all landscapes below timberline have been sculpted by man, I deeply appreciate wild lands where man's hand is not much in evidence. Preservation of unique habitats and open space for flora and fauna is very important to me.
Hermi Hiatt, a volunteer with Friends of Nevada Wilderness since 1987, has been involved with almost every piece of wilderness legislation in the state. Her on-the-ground knowledge, mapping and inventory work especially in Clark County has had direct payoff with more areas protected as Wilderness. Hermi is active in other conservation organizations, and she is the past president of the Red Rock Audubon Society
Hermi is a professional plant ecologist who has worked extensively in the Mojave Desert and across the Great Basin. Her professionalism has brought a strong science-based component to Friends of Nevada Wilderness’ work. Hermi’s wealth of knowledge, big heart and willingness to volunteer have been instrumental to Friends’ success in conserving over three million acres of Nevada’s Wilderness.
Wilderness has been part of my life for as long as I can remember. Growing up on the slopes of Mt. Tamalpais, I considered the entire mountain to be part of my own personal "backyard," and, as a student at UNR, I began to explore Nevada's vast variety of unspoiled wilderness. Over the last several years, I learned of the amazing work Friends is doing to turn these areas into designated wilderness so they'll be protected in perpetuity.
Larry, with a Ph.D. in biochemistry from the University of Nevada, spent most of his career developing human and veterinary diagnostic tests. He has also worked with an environmental analytical laboratory and a solar installation company. Larry was actively involved in the 1980’s in Nevada’s Forest Service bill campaign that resulted in many new wilderness areas. Now, fully retired from regular work, he wants to spend more time helping Friends preserve and protect wilderness. He is an avid hiker and has climbed many of Nevada's peaks.
I devote my time and energy working for wilderness preservation because I greatly enjoy large open spaces which are not greatly modified by man's activities. I also believe wilderness areas are some of the best areas to view wildlife.
John Hiatt has been working on conservation issues primarily in southern Nevada for almost 30 years. He played a large part in wilderness protection for Forest Service lands in the 1980s and then focused his attention on BLM managed lands. He helped to both create and expand the Red Rock National Conservation Area outside of Las Vegas.
John is well versed in Las Vegas civic affairs having served as a member and chairman of the Enterprise Town Advisory Board since 1979; served on the Las Vegas Valley Citizens Groundwater Management Advisory Committee since its inception in 1998; and served on the Integrated Joint Water Planning Citizens Advisory Committee. John is currently serving as chairman of the BLM's Resource Advisory Council for the Mojave-Southern Great Basin region.
An organic chemist by training, with a Ph.D. from Yale University, John has been employed as a clinical and forensic chemist since 1973. John has been a member of the Board of Directors of Friends of Nevada Wilderness since 1995 where his extensive knowledge of a broad array of subjects has been invaluable in steering Board policy.
Nothing makes me more content than getting out of the man-made environment and into the natural world – doing so has truly changed my values, my ethics, myself. I hope for others to make that same connection with our wild places, which we cannot take for granted and must protect for ourselves and for future generations.
Michelle Napoli was drawn to the local mountains and the open desert spaces of Southern Nevada in 2010. A few years later she began volunteering with Friends of Nevada Wilderness, wanting to lend a hand in taking care of the places where she enjoys spending her free time hiking, backpacking, camping, rock climbing and canyoneering. As the Community Outreach Director of the Las Vegas Mountaineers Club from 2012-2015, Michelle recruited fellow outdoor recreation enthusiasts to work with Friends as well as other organizations and land managers on a variety of stewardship projects in the Las Vegas area. A 1994 graduate of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, cum laude and Commonwealth Scholar, Michelle has been working as a freelance business journalist for the past 13-plus years. A member of the American Alpine Club and the Access Fund, and a supporter of the Peconic Land Trust in her native eastern Long Island. Since joining the Friends of Nevada Wilderness Board in 2015, she has served as its Secretary, a member of its Finance Committee, chair of its Development Committee, and is currently its Treasurer.
I was so fortunate to grow up at a time when much of the west was still wild and the dominant recreational uses were traditional: hiking, fishing, hunting and horseback riding. Within a generation, those opportunities have vastly diminished. I want to do all that I can to ensure that my grandchildren and their grandchildren will always have the same wilderness opportunities and life benefits that I was able to enjoy.
Karen, a retired school teacher and Nevadan "Desert Rat" and volunteer conservation activist for over 30 years, is a founding member of Friends Of Nevada Wilderness.
She has held the recreation position on the Northwest Nevada Resource Advisory Committee for the BLM and has been active on many wildlife and off road vehicle issues at the state legislature. Karen has also served on the Board of the Nevada chapter of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and the board of the Nevada Wildlife Coalition. Karen was reappointed to the Friends Board in 1999.
Lou's introduction to Nevada Wilderness began in 2004 with a drive in the dark down the washboard Soldiers Meadow Road. He and his son spent a weekend volunteering for National Public Lands Day in the Black Rock Desert High Rock Canyon Emigrant Trails National Conservation Area and the rest is history as they say.
Lou has been actively involved with Friends of Nevada Wilderness ever since. In 2010, Friends recognized him for leading an annual school camping trip to volunteer in the NCA, exposing 30 students and parents to wilderness each year. Lou also has volunteered with Lahontan Audubon, coordinating school field trips to Washoe Lake State Park, and the Nature Conservancy, where he was the Indiana chapter's volunteer of the year in 2000. Lou is a graduate of Indiana University and the University of Oregon School of Law. A former reporter, Lou practices law with the Kaempfer Crowell law firm in Reno, Carson City and Las Vegas. Lou, his wife Jill, have three children; Louis, Zora and Maylyn and he lives in East Washoe Valley.
Tim Buchanan, Board Member
Tim brings the unique combination of a life-long passion for Nevada’s wild landscapes and a professional background in corporate social responsibility and sustainability in the global mining industry. Tim has a BS in Mining Engineering from the Colorado School of Mines (1983) and a MS in Water Resource Management from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas (1998). Tim worked in the mining industry here and abroad for over 20 years. Most recently, he worked for Barrick from 2001-2017, serving as Senior Adviser/Director of the Energy and Extractives Advisory Services and then as Director of Corporate Social Responsibility. Here, Tim implemented engagement programs with traditionally “non-supportive stakeholders” such as leading environmental and conservation NGOs to build positive relationships. Tim is currently serving as the Public Affairs Administrative Officer for the Office of the Mayor and City Council of Henderson. Tim has served on the Board of Directors of The Nevada Chapter of the Nature Conservancy, The Outside Las Vegas Foundation and the Western Shoshone Scholarship Fund. In accepting his Board nomination Tim noted: “My commitment to Friends of Nevada Wilderness is based upon the organization’s long and successful history of working productively with a spectrum of relevant stakeholders to develop sustainable wilderness protection proposals. Friends' ability to work across ideological, economic and philosophical divides and accomplish its mission is noteworthy in today’s polarized socio-political environment.” Tim joined the Board in 2018.
Growing up in Southern California, I escaped with my family to the High Sierras as often as possible. My father and I hiked the high country, and along those muddy trails and in those sacred places, my father instilled in me the value of wild places and how if we don’t protect them, they would soon disappear. Our diverse and beautiful landscape is a priceless inheritance we leave for our children and future generations. I want to share my father’s message, and now my own, with anyone who will listen.
Roberta, a retired National Park Service Ranger/Interpreter and co-editor of Wild Nevada: Testimonies on Behalf of the Desert, is a volunteer conservationist, involved in the Aldo Leopold Foundation Land Ethics program, and a writer and artist. She and her husband David are committed to developing land trusts in Nevada, to preserve and protect our wild landscapes. Roberta was elected to the board in 2013.
Tom Myers moved to Nevada in 1983 and has been entranced with the open spaces and wilderness of the Great Basin and Mojave Deserts ever since.
Tom was conservation director for Friends in the late 1990s, having obtained some grants to map roadless areas and review development proposals that could affect Wilderness lands in Nevada. Originally from Pennsylvania where the No Trespass sign is ubiquitous, Tom values the public lands of Nevada which he explores whenever possible. Using a Ph.D. in hydro-geology obtained from the University of Nevada, Tom works as a consulting hydrogeologist on water rights and groundwater issues all over the country, primarily for conservation groups. He has maintained a professional focus on Nevada by working to protect the waters of the Great Basin from attempts to develop groundwater basins by Las Vegas. Tom was elected to the board in 2014 and recently moved back to Pennsylvania but is still roaming around Nevada when he gets a chance.
Growing up in the shadows of the Wasatch and within a quick drive of the Uintah mountains, I have always cherished every opportunity to reconnect with nature and enjoy all that the wild world has to offer. Since my relocation to Nevada in 2004 I have been converted to the beauty of Nevada’s desert, its delicate and rugged landscape, and its open expanses of natural beauty. As an architect and maker and designer of man-made things, I cherish the untrammeled expanse of natural beauty that exists here in Nevada. My heart is warmed by the natural design of Little Finland and its intricate rusty-red and salmon colored elegance; or, the design of native plant species that lie dormant on the desert floor waiting for the slightest trace of moisture so that they can burst forth into life! Nevada’s wild places are truly a treasure.
Eric is President and CEO of Knit, an architectural firm with offices in Las Vegas, Salt Lake City and Seattle. He specializes in sustainable design technologies and is responsible for developing a firm-wide vision for improving building performance. Eric holds a Masters of Architecture degree from the University of Idaho as well as a Bachelor’s of Science degree in Architecture from the University of Idaho. He is past President of the American Institute of Architects Las Vegas and Nevada Chapters. Eric and his wife Cathy have five pretty great kids and make Las Vegas the launch pad for their current adventures.
"Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit, and as vital to our lives as water and good bread". - Edward Abbey
Dan was born in the foothills of Northern California but has called Reno, Nevada his home for the past decade. As the environmental coordinator for the Patagonia Service Center, he has facilitated thousands of volunteer work hours, many of which were spent with Friends of Nevada Wilderness. His Blue Helmet award for participation in Friends stewardship outings is one of his most prized possessions and commands a place of prestige on his mantle. Through his time in the Patagonia Environmental program, he has also gained insight into the world of environmental philanthropy and is excited to see it through the eyes of the grantee. Dan holds a BA in Secondary Education from the University of Nevada, Reno. In his free time, Dan embraces the seasons. When there is snow he can be found splitboarding in the backcountry around Reno. When there is sun he is most likely found knee-deep in a mountain stream casting flies to elusive trout. When there is rain he is out working in his backyard garden, and when the first frosts of fall come, he is hiking through the hills of Nevada searching for chukar and quail. Dan is elated to serve on the board of Friends of Nevada Wilderness and to help fight to keep Nevada's public lands wild. He was elected to the board in February of 2021.
I have always been happiest when I could feel at one with the natural world. I hope that wilderness and wild things will always be a part of the life of my extended family for generations to come.
Marge Sill, founding board member and full-time volunteer conservationist, was a driving force behind Friends of Nevada Wilderness. She worked for and helped make every acre of Nevada's 3.37 million acres of wilderness a reality. Marge is lovingly known as the Grandmother of Nevada Wilderness and was and will remain to be an inspiration for several generations of wilderness advocates. We will miss you, Marge!
After climbing to the top of a wilderness peak and seeing the Great Basin unfold around me, I am filled with a sense of belonging that I never felt anywhere else. I am home!
Shaaron has served as Executive Director for Friends of Nevada Wilderness since July 2000, becoming the organization’s first full-time Director. She has built Friends of Nevada Wilderness into a strong, vibrant organization with a string of wilderness legislative successes leading to the protection of over 3 million acres of wilderness. She and her staff have also built up a nationally recognized Wilderness Stewardship Program working with all four federal agencies across Nevada to provide boots-on-the-ground restoration and monitoring for Nevada’s wildlands.
She has had a passion for Nevada’s wild places since moving to the state in 1978. Shaaron also serves as vice-chairman of the Board of Directors for the National Wilderness Stewardship Alliance. Prior to accepting the ED position, Shaaron was a field manager with the Bureau of Land Management in Prineville, Oregon. She has 22 years of public land management experience in the BLM with 10 years in Nevada working specifically in the BLM’s Wilderness program. These duties ranged from helping to coordinate the State-wide intensive inventory, authoring two legislative wilderness EISs for eastern Nevada, and writing wilderness study reports. She has lived and worked throughout much of rural Nevada. She received her BS degree in Wildlife Management from Humboldt State University.
“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It’s not.” – The Lorax by Dr. Seuss
Darcy assumed the position of Administrative Director in 2011 after serving a year as an AmeriCorps volunteer with Friends of Nevada Wilderness, and was promoted to Director of Finance and Human Resources after successfully overseeing the organization’s first audit in 2013. Darcy graduated with a Bachelor’s from University of Nevada, Reno after studying Journalism and Political Science in 2010, and was certified in UNR’s Excellence in Nonprofit Management Institute in 2014.
Her passion for public lands and paper trails fosters a stable organization where people are encouraged to do their best work. During her tenure, the organization’s workforce and finances have seen stable, strategic growth, including a doubling of the organizational budget from 2011 to 2021. Her background in media arts inspired her to start the organization’s Twitter, YouTube, and Instagram accounts, which she continues to steward over ten years later as a member of the Communications Team. Her favorite moment with Friends was winning the Leave No Trace February 2011 Bigfoot Challenge with an instructional video about dental hygiene in the Wilderness (available on the Friends of Nevada Wilderness YouTube channel). Additionally, Darcy served as Treasurer of the National Wilderness Stewardship Alliance from 2013-2018, overseeing the NWSA’s financial health and the addition of annual six-figure granting agreements with the Forest Service. Born and raised in northern Nevada, in her free time Darcy enjoys birdwatching and stargazing with her daughter Kestrel.
I can’t tell you how good it feels for me to be working for FNW. Now I can give back to this great state on a grand scale. As the Stewardship Program Director, I am able to take regular folks who are concerned about their public lands out on our projects and introduce them to the special places in Nevada, the last of the Wild West.
Pat heads up our Wilderness Stewardship Program, coordinating with agencies and volunteers to get projects done on the ground. Pat brings a wealth of experience to the job, including years of managing volunteers and programs from Boy Scouts to archaeological field schools at University of Nevada, Reno. Pat was born in Scotland and has lived in Nevada for nearly 25 years. He and his dog, Skye, try to spend 100 nights a year out in Nevada's backcountry. Pat loves Nevada's wild open places and likes to see himself as an "early man" seeing the land through the eyes of those who came before. With a BA in anthropology, Pat focused on early man sites in the northern Great Basin. Pat joined the staff in 2006.
"To those devoid of imagination a blank place on the map is a useless waste; to others, the most valuable part.” – Aldo Leopold
Chris grew up in Arizona and attended Northern Arizona University where he received a Bachelor of Science in Forestry. After graduation, he moved to Nevada where he fell in love with the sweeping valleys and wild nature of the Great Basin. Chris began with Friends of Nevada Wilderness as an Americorps volunteer for our Stewardship Department in 2015 and now works as our Stewardship Manager. Chris has worked as a technician studying the Mexican Spotted Owl and Greater Sage-Grouse, he has experience as an interpretive Wilderness Ranger in Yosemite National Park, is certified as a Wilderness-EMT, and does landscape and night-sky photography. He excels at creating safe and rewarding volunteer experiences for the public. His favorite part of the job is helping new volunteers experience wild Nevada for the first time. When he’s not working, you’ll find Chris backpacking, gardening, backcountry skiing, fishing, or cooking food.
Nevada holds much of this country’s remaining secrets. We must protect them for our fellow explorers, so that they too may get lost while finding themselves.
Jake came to Nevada in August 2011 to pursue a Master’s degree in Geography at the University of Nevada, Reno. He grew up in western New York State and attended the SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry where he received a Bachelor’s of Science in Conservation Biology. Much of his childhood was spent hiking, canoeing, mountain biking, and climbing trees in the expanse of nature the Adirondack Park has to offer. He has developed a strong connection with nature and it seems fate has brought him to help protect our wild lands here in Nevada.
Tara was born and raised on the coast of Florida. She traded the ocean for the mountains when she headed west to hike the Pacific Crest Trail. Ever since then, trails became her life as she explored long distance trails from Wisconsin to New Zealand. She joined the FNW trail crew in 2018 and continues to lead crews and manage the trail program as Trails Coordinator. Spending so much time in Nevada’s truly remote Wilderness areas ignited more than just a passion for trails, but also a drive to protect our planet’s last remaining wild spaces. When Tara’s not backpacking, running, or working on trails, you might find her splitboarding, dancing, watching her plants grow or eating cookies!
After you have gone out, gotten dusty and fallen in love with Wild Nevada, you then come to the realization that you have a responsibility to preserve and protect her for future generations.
Kurt brings a unique group of skills to Friends. Kurt worked in the private sector for over 30 years and 25 of those in a management position. Kurt has been successful in managing large construction projects and consistently bringing projects in on time and within budget constraints.
Kurt is very passionate about the protection and preservation of Nevada’s wild places and that passion shows not only in Kurt’s on the ground work but in his award winning photography. Kurt resides in Reno with his wife of 30 years, Barbara, and their two trail dogs Henry and Penny.
Grace served as an AmeriCorps volunteer with Friends of Nevada Wilderness in 2015, then joined the staff in the stewardship program, and assumed the position of Southern Nevada Programs Director in 2019. She has gained an intimate knowledge of Southern Nevada's wild lands and been inspired by the incredible people who dedicate themselves to caring for them. Grace grew up in Duluth, Minnesota where she was always jumping in lakes and earned Bachelor’s degrees in biology and philosophy. She also lived on the Oregon coast for a few years where she served as an AmeriCorps volunteer with the Bureau of Land Management and met her husband. In 2021, Grace earned an Outdoor Industry Business Certificate from Western Colorado University.
How does a landscape contribute to the making of a person? You tell me. The vast, wild landscapes of the Mojave and Great Basin deserts played a formative role in my earliest childhood years. I learned that landscapes that do not expose the rock, earth, and stone skeleton that binds this planet together are alien and strange. In my teens, I witnessed the rise of mechanized access and recreation take an ever-increasing toll on the empty wild deserts I had grown to love. When I moved to Reno in 1979, I dedicated every spare minute to exploring, documenting, protecting, and advocating for the natural integrity and wilderness character of Nevada. Today I feel fortunate that my dedication to the beauty and wonder of the great American deserts can now be focused full-time through my work with Friends.
Kirk brings to Friends 30 years of experience traveling and photographing Nevada’s backcountry and wilderness, and - most recently - ten years as a National Park Service ranger. Over the past several years he has been collecting data on Nevada's dark skies, assisting the Forest Service with Wilderness Character Monitoring, and acting as the organization's Wilderness Historian.
Nevada is an often-misunderstood gem in the western landscape. I am honored to call myself a part of an organization who is so committed to Nevada’s wild lands, and dedicated to education and outreach in Nevada’s communities. I am excited to align my lively spirit and vision with Friends of Nevada Wilderness and continue to develop the connection between the people and the land that I love.
Nora, who hails from Oregon, moved to Nevada in 2012 after wandering the West for a few years. She led trail crews in Rocky Mountain National Park, the Grand Canyon, Big Sur, and worked for a handful of conservation organizations before she settled in Nevada where she fell in love with the unexplored solitude which the desert has to offer. The first-hand experience that Nora gained working in some of the most remote areas of the West helped her understand the vast and pressing issues that face wilderness areas in the modern day. She was inspired to dedicate herself and her work to protecting the truly wild places that we have left for current and future generations to experience and explore.
Peter Sbraccia has lived on both coasts, but for him nothing beats Southern Nevada. While earning a Bachelor's degree in Earth and Environmental Science at UNLV, Peter began volunteering with Friends of Nevada Wilderness. He attended Friends’ Alternative Spring Break program several times, and completed 1500 hours of AmeriCorps service with Friends of Nevada Wilderness before joining the staff in 2019. As Southern Nevada Stewardship Coordinator, Peter works with our dedicated volunteers and each of the federal land management Agencies to facilitate service projects on public lands in Southern Nevada. When he’s not in the office or in the field on an overnight service project, you might find Peter in his garden, running along a wash, or hunting for rocks and bugs among sand dunes and mesquite bosques scattered around his neighborhood.
Meg joined FNW Trail Crew in 2018, working four seasons in Nevada's remote wilderness areas. Now she's joining the staff year round as the Northern Nevada Stewardship Coordinator. Meg was born in Florida, lived in Argentina, and is now an advocate for Nevada's Wilderness. After graduating with a degree in Environmental Studies she split her time between two very different worlds; the winter's researching two endangered butterflies in the Everglades National Park and the summers working trails in Nevada. The rugged mountains and the lush creeks of the high desert have changed her perception of desert and has fallen in love with its vastness and diversity. Carrying a pack, getting dirty, and camping out under the stars have become second nature to her. She is excited to explore and learn even more about Nevada's Public Lands. When she isn't in the field she is exploring the surrounding areas, kayaking, running, cooking, and taking photos of it all.
Clarice was born and raised in Las Vegas. Most of her experience on our public lands occurred when she got to college through school, with friends, and as a volunteer with us - especially at Alternative Spring Breaks. She graduated with her Bachelor's of Science in Earth and Environmental Science from UNLV and has worked all over the southwest as an interpretive naturalist and as a field tech doing vegetation, soil, and springs monitoring. She considers herself a desert rat through and through and enjoys helping our community connect with the magic of Nevada's public lands. When she's not getting dusty at work, she enjoys hiking, birding, baking, running, and making ceramics.
Olivia joins us from the Appalachian foothills of Pennsylvania. She recently graduated with a master's degree in Environmental Studies from Ohio University and is excited to continue learning about the work behind conserving public lands. She has a background in sustainability and is looking forward to making connections between the importance of designating land, climate change, and the balance between maintaining wild spaces and providing recreational opportunities.
As our summer/fall stewardship AmeriCorps for the 2021 season, she feels fortunate to have experienced the expansiveness of Nevada's landscapes with such passionate staff and volunteers. She's excited to be on board as the new Northern Nevada Programs Coordinator working with both the Outreach and Stewardship departments and becoming more involved with volunteer projects. When she's not working you can find her exploring trails around Tahoe, climbing, snowboarding, looking at rocks, or planning her next adventure.